Sir Michael Philip Jagger
Co-founder, co-songwriter, co-producer,
lead vocalist and
occasional instrumentalist for the
Rolling Stones
1962-present
Born July 26, 1943 in
Dartford, Kent, England
Sun in Leo,
Moon in Taurus
The thing is that the guy's GOOD, man (laughs). He can sing his ass off.
I'm
a dedicated show-business person. I'll go onstage and do Noel Coward. I
mean, I'm just a show-business person, whether it's playing guitar, piano,
acting, singing, dancing. I just chose rock & roll as my career in
show business. If I'd been born in 1915, I'd have been a jazz drummer or
singer in a jazz band or an actor.
A knighthood, I'd take, nothing less than
a knighthood. But you gotta last a long time to get a knighthood.
I didn't have any inhibitions. I saw Elvis
and Gene Vincent, and I thought, Well, I can do this. And I liked
doing it. It's a real buzz, even in front of 20 people, to make a complete
fool of yourself. But people seemed to like it. And the thing is, if people
started throwing tomatoes at me, I wouldn't have gone on with it. But they
all liked it, and it always seemed to be a success, and people were shocked.
I could see it in their faces... They could see it was a bit wild for what
was going on at the time in these little places in the suburbs.
There's 2 parts of all this, at least.
There's this great fascination for music and this love of playing blues
- not only blues, just rock and roll generally. There's this great love
of that. But there's this other thing that's performing... I guess you
just want some sort of gratification. You have to want some sort of approval.
But it's also just the love of actually doing it. Fun.
He's the best pop performer Britain's ever
had. He made the group, really. Without Mick, the Stones would have been
nothing.
(Pop music is) not my life! It's a nice
part of my life, but it's nowhere near all my life. I get up very early
now. I get up at nine and when it comes to around two I start to feel it
a bit. But it's all very enjoyable.
It bothers (people) because they can't
be like that themselves (i.e. fearless and rambunctious like a child).
I consider myself very lucky, and one of the reasons for that is that when
I'm singing or acting or playing or anything - even at home - I feel just
like a baby - like I'm 10 or 11 or 12. Whether that's my fantasy, whether
it's right or wrong - I know that it's something that other people can't
do. I mean, I can act like a 34-year-old too - I've trained myself to act
in this manner (laughs) - but when I'm playing I can go back in time. I
think that's true for many musicians and actors and dancers, and people
envy that.
(Mick) can't face reality. Because everybody
has a different idea of what or who Mick Jagger is, he's confused himself
now as to who he actually is. People are usually too embarassed or don't
want to get involved that much to let Mick know. I'm one of them. It IS
a tremendous hassle to keep Mick in reality because he's so easily influenced.
I enjoy changing personalities. Yeah, honestly
I feel I've got to be very... chameleon-like just to preserve my own identity...
I don't feel threatened by (the) possible eventuality (of losing touch
with myself). I don't want to have just one front. I feel like I need at
least two just to carry on doing what I'm doing comfortably. It's acting,
sure it is... that's what it obviously comes down to. It just gives me
the facility to do practically anything I want, see, and even then the
most drastic changes of personlity don't really affect me 'cause I never
feel the need to do them that often. It's all part of being a rock &
roll star, after all.
Mick has got a million roles that he works,
plays and uses very well, but he plays it up purposely because in actual
fact he doesn't believe in it. He's not about to believe in it because
the anchor is still there and he knows it. I think it's something that
he uses to deal with a situation at the time.
He IS totally different in public than
he is in private life... Sometimes he carries his public persona over into
his private life, which gets to be a REAL pain in the ass, because you
know he's full of shit... His voice changes, for one thing, and he starts
takling with that pseudo-Southern accent. And sometimes in private he starts
using a very rough Cockney accent, which also is not his real voice. It's
actually more like the way Charlie and I talk, dropping the h's and all
that. He never talked like that before, because he came from a middle class
family and went to middle class schools. I've got interviews with him on
radio and televion from the 60s where he's talking like the Queen does
- Oh, well, it's QUITE interesting to... He's getting a bit like
Peter Sellers: I don't think he knows which one is the real Mick Jagger.
(Laughs) It keeps the mystery going.
Keith is very happy on the road. He isn't
quite as different on tour as the others in the band. I'm a lot more unbearable
on the road. It goes up and down with me.
I think the Rolling Stones are very hard
as a band. They're hard on people, on everything. Mick is very hard on
people. Keith isn't that hard. Keith will stop people when he think it's
time, while Mick will say it up front. Mick is very hard to work for if
you're at all sensitive.
People don't realize how sensitive Mick
really is. The public believe Mick to be callous, but he's quite sensitive.
Mick was in tears when we got back from the hospital. It was quite sad.
Mick has always been good with the afflicted.
He's very gentle and takes a lot of trouble with them. I've seen him looking
after Keith and Brian whenever they were in a mess, which was quite often.
The
international jet-set image is more Bianca than Mick. Bianca thrives on
it. But Mick can take it or leave it. One of the things I've always admired
about Mick is that he can talk just as easily to the President of France
as the taxi driver who took him to the palace to meet the president.
Of course Keith isn't into that society
trip. And Mick is. Yet part of Mick is just low down, out there rock and
roll. Mick has got all these compartments mapped out.
Keith didn't have to deal with (the press),
Mick did... Mick was the first guy who got out and took it from the street
to Elaine's (trendy New York restaurant). And he didn't really change.
He was still a Stone even though he went to Elaine's or Regine's. I see
a noticeable difference when Mick's with the group and when he's not, a
difference in Mick.
Well, I don't have that many problems,
so if others do, then I don't mind dealing with them. Maybe I just ignore
my problems... I mean, of course I have problems, but not really day to
day ones because I have people to look after me, you know? I'm very lucky,
I don't have to pack my bags, I don't have to worry about my airplane,
I don't have to worry about my cars. But then you have a lot of people
who have emotional problems, and I don't... I'm very happy... (I'm) not
lonely at all. Why should I be? I have my dearest friends with me, Keith,
Charlie... most of the band are my friends, and a lot of other people who
have been my friends for years... It's not like I'm on tour and I'm the
Lonely Rock Star. I mean forget it, doesn't apply to me.
Mick can cut himself off objectively from
being Mick Jagger, Rolling Stone. He has two lives which is all him. When
you're having dinner the Stones don't even come up in conversation. Don't
be conned by Mick. Mick can be nice one day and treat you as if he's never
seen you in his life the next day. That's how he keeps people on edge.
Keith is the great mediator of the group. Keith is really the human side
to Mick. Keith is Mick's conscience. Without Keith it's Mick Jagger and
a backing band.
I'm not really a socialite person. Keith
and me are really just like people in the street.
Mick is a selfish person, but he's not
ungenerous. In many ways he's a really nice guy. But he's too unsure of
himself to be THAT nice a guy. It's sad I can't talk about engineers or
whatever to him 'cause I know whatever I say he's gonna say the opposite...
Instead of getting MORE secure over the years, which you'd think Mick would
have every right to, he's getting more insecure. Unfortunately he's taking
it out on the wrong people.
Mick is really good when he lets
himself be freed up. I admire the man. I was reading a letter I'd
written to an aunt of mine, where I'm telling her I've just met this
guy that I used to go to school with, and his name is Mick Jagger. I
was reading the letter today. She just sent it to me. And I'm
telling her (in the letter) that we've started to put this band
together, and that as far as I'm concerned this guy is the best R&B
singer in England. I'm praising the man to the skies. And I still do.
He's one of the best harp players in the world. The only area we
disagree on is when I say, Mick, if you can play that like that on the harp, you can sing like that, too. And he says, Oh no, they're two separate things. That's where we disagree. I say it's the same thing. It's just blowing air out of your mouth.
I think it's very important that you have at least some sort
of inner thing you don't talk about. That's why I find it distasteful when
all these pop stars talk about their habits... It's wearing. You're on
all the time. As much as I love talking to you today, I'd rather be having
one day where I don't have to think about me. With all this attention,
you become a child. It's awful to be the center of attention. You can't
talk about anything apart from your own experience, your own dopey life.
I'd rather do something that can get me out of the center of attention.
It's very dangerous. But there's no way, really, to avoid that.